tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21663900.post4183419852072305583..comments2023-09-04T10:23:47.265+01:00Comments on Merry Warriors: Cameron to solve age-old problemEdmund Ironsidehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09969891008303950510noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21663900.post-3402711334006769632009-11-11T11:23:16.809+00:002009-11-11T11:23:16.809+00:00Even if you wanted to 'separate the state and ...Even if you wanted to 'separate the state and civil society' how would you go about it? I don't understand this point at all. Under socialism/communism, the state subsumes civil society and arrogates to itself decision-making, resources anc control. Under our representative democracies, the state doesn't. Those are different. Not the same. All I can discern from Scruton in this case is arguing for what Britain currently has. In terms of what works better and what works worse, no system on earth can compare to the US constitution, created from whole cloth. In terms of longevity, effectiveness at preventing tyranny, and being flexible enough to cope with vastly differing circumstances while protecting basic rights, no system comes close. Certainly not the British one, which is now in tatters.Edmund Ironsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09969891008303950510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21663900.post-45802255403146523822009-11-11T10:05:17.967+00:002009-11-11T10:05:17.967+00:00"Lenin, Karl Marx, George Bernard Shaw and Ma..."Lenin, Karl Marx, George Bernard Shaw and Mao Tse Tung are sitting in hell grinning from ear to ear."<br /><br />"Conservatives are recognizable as political animals partly ... by their reluctance to effect any complete separation - either in theory or practice between state and civil society - ... moreover it is as deep an instinct as it is in a socialist to resist the champions of 'minimal' government,and to recognise the esence of politcs in established power"<br /><br />"The Meaning of Conservatism", R. Scruton,(2001) pg 40-41Adrian Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15830689700559458095noreply@blogger.com