Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Oh THAT kind of debate

"I have deleted this comment by you:

"Whats best for baby?". Thats not the question gay couples ask first. The question they ask first is "Why do I have to pay any penalty for living a life of perversion?" Any sane society would not allow sexually aberrant couples who could never produce offspring by the normal method to bring up children, normalising their own sexual deviance in the process.

It is homophobic and offensive. Please read the talk policy before you post again, anything else that breaches it will be removed and you will have your posting privileges withdrawn.

Moderator" (http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/index.html)

So, which bit is the homophobic bit? 'Perversion', according to Dictionary.com is 'any of various means of obtaining sexual gratification that are generally regarded as being abnormal'. Is gay sex normal, or abnormal? That sounds like a debate question to me... but not to the Comment is Free moderator. So maybe it was 'aberrant', meaning 'deviating from the ordinary, usual, or normal type; exceptional; abnormal'. Or perhaps 'deviant', meaning 'Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society'.

If you can't take that kind of language, and argue the points made, you aren't debating, you are, to use an apt phrase, having a circle jerk. Weirdly enough, a few hours later, I bumped into this story via Instapundit-

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=6133465

The left constantly touts diversity, accepting everybody for who they are, and listening to all points of view. But thats not how they transact business. As soon as they disagree, their first instinct is to shut down debate and cast those with non-orthodox opinions into the outer darkness. Its all very Stalinist. Unsurprisingly of course, if you know the history of the left.

Sure, what I said on CiF was no honeydew of sweet whisperings. It was direct, to the point, perhaps brutal. But Homophobic? Offensive? All comments in a debate are potentially offensive. Who cares? Some people are very very easily offended. If you stopped debate every time someone was at all offended, no debate anywhere would last for more than a few sentances. If the standard is 'offensive', then the intention is to close down debate as soon as it gets interesting.

We have to take back the Schools and the Universities people.

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